Friday, December 31, 2010

Personal Rapid Transit is NOT Happening in Masdar

GulfNews.com:

The future of the PRT system

Masdar City is piloting its Personal Rapid Transit (PRT) system, which is made up of electric-powered, automated, single-cabin vehicles.

Magnets embedded in the road are used to locate their positions and on-board sensors detect obstacles in their path. They are also powered by a recyclable battery that recharges while the vehicles are standing at the stations between trips. The vehicles can travel up to 40 kilometres per hour on straight roads and 25 kilometres per hour on curves.

News reports have said Masdar plans to scrap the PRT system.

When "Weekend Review" asked Masdar about it, they said that "in the past two years, there has been a surge in the development of electric and robotic vehicles in the commercial market and we wish to study these to make comparisons with our PRT system".


Another big FAIL for ill-starred, would-be pod vendor 2GetThere. But the PRT hucksters will likely continue to promote 2GetThere's glorified golf carts into the next decade. Here's a wacky video that offers a collage of animated pods, King Kong, dirigibles and other junk as some kind of an environmental solution:

2Getthere PRT from Rafaël Croonen on Vimeo.

Tuesday, December 28, 2010

Personal Rapid Transit Is NOT a "New Technology"

The PRT hucksters like to claim the pods are a "new technology". PRT is neither new or a technology.

PRT is an argument - an argument that conventional transit is not "faster, better, cheaper" than so-called "innovative transportation technologies", PRT being one of them. The problem is futuristic pie-in-the-sky gadgetbahn PRT schemes exist only as unproven concepts. At times, the PRT hucksters produced prototype pods or even a test track... but there really is no there, there.

The anti-transit arguments of the PRT hucksters of today or no different than when they wore sideburns and bell bottoms.

Read about PRT in this forty-year-old Popular Science puff piece.



More recent PRT fiascos:

Masdar and Heathrow PRT Still Not Happening.

The Pawlenty administration wasted at least $150,000 on personal rapid transit .

PRT Conference Newsletter & Website Features PRT Plan by Convicted Felon.

PRT is so not happening at Heathrow.

Daventry says "Pods Off!".

Video: Bill James Pitches Jpods Resolution to Hennepin County.

Federal Funding Nixed for Winona Personal Rapid Transit Project

Taxi 2000 lobbyist and Bachmann pal Ed Cain also lobbied for the phony U.S. Navy Veterans Association charity.

ULTra PRT Heathrow Debut Postponed a Fourth Time.

No $25 million earmark for PRT pork project in Winona, Minnesota.

The Swedish/Korean PRT prototype malfunctioned recently in front of the media.

Wednesday, December 22, 2010

PRT Promoters Behaving Badly (Again)

CETA member and anti-rail transit activist Jerry Schneider posted a Strib article about Federal funding for streetcars in Minneapolis on the Transport Innovators forum prefaced with this quote from ATRA observer at MnDOT's recent PRT workshop Joe Lampe (PRT Minnesota Inc):

Joe Lampe wrote these comments: Unfortunate 1889 streetcar revival for Minneapolis & St. Paul? I've heard that Ed Anderson upset (insulted?) Mayor Ryback at a meeting some years ago, and Ryback has banished any discussion of PRT.


Another participant in the MnDOT workshop last August, would-be PRT vendor Jack Slade chimes in with this comment:

It is interesting that they will study the streetcar versus bus service, but not streetcar versus bus versus PRT service. Real foward thinking.

We should be thinking of a fitting memorial for this type of Mayor. Anybody know where we can get 100 trainloads of horse manure?

Jack Slade


Read some more of Jack Slade's greatest hits here.

Keep it KLASSY PRT promoters!



More recent PRT fiascos:

Masdar and Heathrow PRT Still Not Happening.

The Pawlenty administration wasted at least $150,000 on personal rapid transit .

PRT Conference Newsletter & Website Features PRT Plan by Convicted Felon.

PRT is so not happening at Heathrow.

Daventry says "Pods Off!".

Video: Bill James Pitches Jpods Resolution to Hennepin County.

Federal Funding Nixed for Winona Personal Rapid Transit Project

Taxi 2000 lobbyist and Bachmann pal Ed Cain also lobbied for the phony U.S. Navy Veterans Association charity.

ULTra PRT Heathrow Debut Postponed a Fourth Time.

No $25 million earmark for PRT pork project in Winona, Minnesota.

The Swedish/Korean PRT prototype malfunctioned recently in front of the media.

Saturday, December 18, 2010

Twitter Reveals Morgantown WVU Personal Rapid Transit's Frequent Breakdowns

Follow the timeline of service SNAFU's on WVUDOT's Twitter account. We learn for instance, that despite a heated guideway, the so-called WVU PRT has difficulty handling "winter conditions":

due to weather conditions the prt is falling in and out of service, bus support is available at all stations. (Dec. 16 @ 12:32pm)


But, this tweet is especially ironic considering all the hype about PRT being more reliable than conventional transit because pods are computerized:



More recent PRT fiascos:

Masdar and Heathrow PRT Still Not Happening.

The Pawlenty administration wasted at least $150,000 on personal rapid transit .

PRT Conference Newsletter & Website Features PRT Plan by Convicted Felon.

PRT is so not happening at Heathrow.

Daventry says "Pods Off!".

Video: Bill James Pitches Jpods Resolution to Hennepin County.

Federal Funding Nixed for Winona Personal Rapid Transit Project

Taxi 2000 lobbyist and Bachmann pal Ed Cain also lobbied for the phony U.S. Navy Veterans Association charity.

ULTra PRT Heathrow Debut Postponed a Fourth Time.

No $25 million earmark for PRT pork project in Winona, Minnesota.

The Swedish/Korean PRT prototype malfunctioned recently in front of the media.

Tuesday, December 14, 2010

Will MnDOT Commissioner Sorel Continue Promoting Personal Rapid Transit?

Steve Berg at MinnPost:

Minnpost: What's your reaction to Gov.-elect Dayton reappointing Tom Sorel as transportation commissioner?

Frank Hornstein:
He's a breath of fresh air at MnDOT and a good advocate for a multimodal approach to transportation. The only complaint I have is that he has embraced PRT (personal rapid transit) in a way that's not helpful. It's something suitable for an amusement park and a distraction from the bigger challenges we face.


With Republicans in control of the MN legislature, there has never been a better opportunity for the PRT hucksters to get a PRT bill passed.

MnDOT wasted a considerable of $$$ on PRT 2009-2010. MnDOT sponsored a ridiculous MnDOT "workshop". The usual crackpots, hucksters and backyard inventors showed up... even convicted felon Dean Zimmermann showed up at the workshop. Here's a bunch of pics from the MnDOT PRT Workshop. A while back, MnDOT announced plans for a "PRT Alliance":



MnDOT has not responded to my emails asking whether the department will continue promoting PRT.

Here are more recent examples PRT fiascos:

Masdar and Heathrow PRT Still Not Happening.

The Pawlenty administration wasted at least $150,000 on personal rapid transit .

PRT Conference Newsletter & Website Features PRT Plan by Convicted Felon.

PRT is so not happening at Heathrow.

Daventry says "Pods Off!".

Video: Bill James Pitches Jpods Resolution to Hennepin County.

Federal Funding Nixed for Winona Personal Rapid Transit Project

Taxi 2000 lobbyist and Bachmann pal Ed Cain also lobbied for the phony U.S. Navy Veterans Association charity.

ULTra PRT Heathrow Debut Postponed a Fourth Time.

No $25 million earmark for PRT pork project in Winona, Minnesota.

The Swedish/Korean PRT prototype malfunctioned recently in front of the media.

Monday, December 13, 2010

Chair of Minnesota High-Speed Rail Commission Lobbied for Personal Rapid Transit

MNObserver has a good post on The Cucking Stool about the consequences of the Wisconsin's Governor-elect Scott Walker decision to opt out of the Upper MIdwest high speed rail network.

Having campaigned on a platform of jobs, jobs, jobs, Wisconsin's Governor-elect Scott Walker has taken steps - even before he has been sworn in - that have driven a private manufacturing employer from the state, has eliminated 4,700 short term jobs, and cost hundreds of permanent jobs...


Walker's decision, of course had consequences for Minnesota. Kevin Giles at the Strib::

About $1.2 billion in federal money had been reserved for high-speed projects in Wisconsin and Ohio. The U.S. Department of Transportation on Thursday awarded those funds to 13 other states -- but not Minnesota -- because Republican governors-elect in Wisconsin and Ohio had promised to kill the projects despite years of planning to build a network of faster trains in the Midwest.

The Wisconsin segment that lost funding -- $810 million from Milwaukee to Madison -- was one of 25 "alignments" under consideration in a Minnesota study to determine the best route to Chicago and what it would cost, Krom said.

The preferred route will be named when the study is completed in June 2012. But "when it gets built is another issue," he said.


[snip]

Jerry Miller, who chairs the Minnesota High-Speed Rail Commission, expressed disappointment that Wisconsin Gov.-elect Scott Walker opposed the project.

"Connecting our region by high-speed rail will create 15,000 new jobs and economic opportunities for years to come," Miller, who is also mayor of Winona, Minn., said Friday. "By shifting this funding to places like Washington, California and Florida, we are also exporting future private-sector job growth to our neighbors and making the region less competitive."

Both Miller and Krom said they would work with Minnesota Gov.-elect Mark Dayton to seek his support for the rail line.


As Chair of the MN HSR Commission, how hard did Jerry Miller lobby his fellow Republicans in Minnesota and Wisconsin? Did Mayor Miller lobby as hard for HSR as he did for Personal Rapid Transit?

There is no doubt the substantial time Miller spent lobbying for PRT was a total waste. The $25 million earmark he requested for PRT was rejected by Rep. Tim Walz. A Federal grant for the pod project was rejected. A pod funding bill, lacking support from leaders in the legislature, didn't get to first base.

Unlike HSR, the funding for PRT wasn't there.

Here is a video of Mayor Miller wasting everyone's time promoting fantasy-based pod transport instead of reality-based conventional transportation from Winona 360:

Reporter Megan McNulty interviews Winona City Manager Eric Sorenson and Mayor Jerry Miller on their thoughts about the proposed plans for a Personal Rapid Transit model of transportation in Winona.








The headlines again...

Masdar and Heathrow PRT Still Not Happening.

The Pawlenty administration wasted at least $150,000 on personal rapid transit .

PRT Conference Newsletter & Website Features PRT Plan by Convicted Felon.

PRT is so not happening at Heathrow.

Daventry says "Pods Off!".

Video: Bill James Pitches Jpods Resolution to Hennepin County.

Federal Funding Nixed for Winona Personal Rapid Transit Project

Minnesota legislators tell pod people not to expect funding from the state at dismal MnDOT "workshop".

Taxi 2000 lobbyist and Bachmann pal Ed Cain also lobbied for the phony U.S. Navy Veterans Association charity.

ULTra PRT Heathrow Debut Postponed a Fourth Time.

No $25 million earmark for PRT pork project in Winona, Minnesota.

The Swedish/Korean PRT prototype malfunctioned recently in front of the media.

Friday, December 10, 2010

PRT on Facebook

Just received this hilarious email:

I'm sure you've received a sizable amount of emails regarding your anti-PRT stance. Add this one to the pile.

I won't try to change your opinion, nor will I try to change your anti-PRT religion. Both would obviously be futile. What I would like you to know is that the costs of what we have now are far too great and current public transportation will not enjoy forever its taxpayer-supported funding bounty. In the end, your side will lose because it is far more costly, far less convenient, and by any measure of ridership it has consistently failed to reach an adequate percentage of the population (unless you're talking about ultra-dense cities like New York). Let's face it, light rail and buses are doomed to pass away into history. The economy and the mood of the taxpayers to continue to support a failed system is growing thin.

I offer you best wishes through what will in the coming years be a greatly trying time for you and your light rail funders. I feel sorry for you that you picked the losing side, nobody likes to lose, but those are the facts.

PS: you do not have permission to use any of my words or information in any way shape or form.

Sincerely,
A non-loyal (never again) reader of one of your columns.


I hate to disapoint Tom B., but I don't get a " sizable amount of emails" about my "anti-PRT stance". In fact, I hardly get any emails from pod people. There is a very, very small number of grassroots PRT supporters.

Let's see what's on Facebook....

Personal Rapid Transit for Auckland has 34 friends.

Personal Rapid Transit Information Blog has 2 friends

Morgantown Personal Rapid Transit has 10 friends

Personal Rapid Transit has 5 friends.

Personal rapid transit has 0 friends.

Personal Rapid Transit has 100 members.

The Citizens for Personal Rapid Transit page have only 20 members.

Pathetic!

Now let's see how many friends conventional transit has:

MN needs more Light Rail!!! has 338 members.

Transit for Livable Communities has 892 friends.

And there is even a Facebook page opposing PRT in Daventry with 84 members.

One big reason why PRT is so unpopular (besides the fact that it doesn't exist and never will) is pod people like Tom B. can be so... unpleasant.



Thursday, December 9, 2010

Are Heathrow & Masdar PRT Projects Really PRT?

Back in 2003, J. Edward Anderson made the following boast:

“This is disruptive technology,” said Edward Anderson, standing beside a red, egg-shaped PRT prototype in the Taxi 2000 Corporation shop in Fridley.


Well, looking around Minneapolis I don't see thousands of pods on a network of iron trestles. After all those years the pod people don't have one... not one... true PRT system in revenue service anywhere in the world.

After years of outrageous hype about PRT being "faster, better, cheaper" than conventional transit, the pod people have nothing to show except the much-postponed Heathrow project (rumored to debut "soon after Christmas") and the scaled-back Masdar project.

PRT Guru announces the grand opening of a PRT "system":

On Sunday, November 28th, the Masdar PRT system opened to the public. To quote Larry Fabian, 2getthere, the manufacturer, got there. 2getthere operates the system with the support of Singapore Mass Rapid Transit. Masdar City is a new carbon-free city being developed adjacent to Abu Dhabi in the UAE.

The system has 10 passenger and 3 freight vehicles serving 2 passenger and 3 freight stations connected by approximately one mile of track. The system is in operation 18 hours a day, seven days a week serving the Masdar Institute of Technology. Trips take about 2 and a half minutes and are presently free of charge. Average wait times are expected to be about 30 seconds.


Can Masdar really be called a system with only two at-grade-level stations and runs a short distance in a basement? Isn't PRT supposed to be elevated? How can they say that PRT can pay for itself when trips are "free of charge"? One mile of track? who is going to bother with the pods in the basement when they can walk that distance easier and faster?

And how are the snail-paced, battery-operated, automated vehicles at Heathrow and Masdar any different than the vehicle in the video below?:


See also:

Masdar and Heathrow PRT Still Not Happening.

The Pawlenty administration wasted at least $150,000 on personal rapid transit .

PRT Conference Newsletter & Website Features PRT Plan by Convicted Felon.

PRT is so not happening at Heathrow.

Daventry says "Pods Off!".

Video: Bill James Pitches Jpods Resolution to Hennepin County.

Federal Funding Nixed for Winona Personal Rapid Transit Project

Minnesota legislators tell pod people not to expect funding from the state at dismal MnDOT "workshop".

Taxi 2000 lobbyist and Bachmann pal Ed Cain also lobbied for the phony U.S. Navy Veterans Association charity.

ULTra PRT Heathrow Debut Postponed a Fourth Time.

No $25 million earmark for PRT pork project in Winona, Minnesota.

The Swedish/Korean PRT prototype malfunctioned recently in front of the media.

Wednesday, December 8, 2010

PRT Promoter Says India Taking Outsourced American Jobs

Jack Slade, would-be PRT vendor made this comment on the "Transport Innovators" forum in response to a question about how India would finance recently proposed Personal Rapid Transit projects:

They get the money from all of us. I am not sure where you are, but if I call a help line here, almost any Company, I get to talk to somebody in India. As many services as possible have been out-sourced to India and Pakistan, and the people who held the jobs here are on welfare or working in a coffee shop. This is called "progress", I think, or "maximizing profits".

It is the result of our Universities ( both Countries) deciding that it is more profitable to educate foreign students instead of our own. These students then return home and start up businesses to compete with out local businesses, and they pay lower salaries, so they win every time.

Jack Slade


Jack Slade had this creepy solution to terrorism:

Terrorism and Transportation Choice
Thu, 2010/02/04 - 12:00am

Dennis, we went through the whole buildup of aviation mostly in the years 1945 to 2000 without having to restrict firearms on aircraft.

During thise years, can you name me one problem that ever occurred, or one persin that was ever injured? If you can, it certainly did not ever get published in the aircraft accident and incident reports that I was reading constantly during that period.

Lesser of 2 evils....which would you prefer,(1) a trained, armed, passenger or (2) a terrorist who has total freedom to kill everybody on board? If you really want to put the fear of Allah into these terrorists, you should make it be known that ALL your bullets have been dipped in pig blood. All the Military bullets, too.

Jack Slade


Here's another KLASSY comment from Jack Slade suggesting the PRT guys "get even" with me:

This does look like it may be our Transportation expert. It might be best to find out him, just to be prepared. Artists just HATE criticism. Why don't we do what we can to interfere with HIS way of makung a living?
Remember: DONT GET MAD, GET EVEN.
Jack Slade


Jack Slade also said I should be cleaning toilets.

Jack Slade also talked trash about Rep. Tim Walz.

Jack Slade attended the MnDOT PRT workshop

Here's Jack Slade's video of his Skytrax PRT model:




Jack Slade got himself onto the list of would -be PRT vendors on the City of San Jose website:

Tuesday, December 7, 2010

Japan Attempt to Build Personal Rapid Transit?

Eight years ago, Michael D. Setty and Leroy W. Demery, Jr. posted an article titled "Conventional Rail vs. 'Gadgetbahnen'" at Planetizen. The essential point:

In our view, it is a big waste of time advocating such "gee-whiz" options, given the severe limits of monorails and similar technologies such as PRT, when U.S. transportation problems are almost always sociopolitical and economic–not technical–in nature.


Demery returns to the subject in "Where's the Gadgetbahn?" at publictransit.us

The introduction:

If there is a country where Personal Rapid Transit (PRT) "should" work and "should" already have been built, then it's Japan.

Having traveled extensively throughout that country over the past three decades, I shall take this a step farther: if there is a place in Japan where PRT "should" work - and "should" already been built - then it's _____.

One could fill in the "blank" above with a number of locations, based on empirical observation of the built environment. During the past five years, maps and aerial photo images became available online and quality has been improved steadily. It is now possible to study the urban geography of Japan, "armchair" style, whether or not one has any knowledge of Japanese. This series shall present several examples of locations in Japan where the built environment appears conducive to PRT development. It shall also consider results obtained by other transport modes, e.g. automated guideway transport (AGT), in specific locations.


Excellent article - read the whole thing.

Saturday, December 4, 2010

Minnesota's Worst Politicians Supported Personal Rapid Transit

With both houses of the Minnesota Legislature in the hands of the GOP, will PRT bills be introduced again? Last year, PRT legislation was stopped by DFL legislators in the House and Senate.

If PRT legislation is again introduced in the next session, I hope legislators and the media will remember the godawful politicians who supported PRT in the past.

Let's start with the legislature's biggest promoter of PRT Mark Olson, arguably one of the worst representatives to sit in the Minnesota House.

From the list of 26 lawmakers who voted for Olson's last PRT amendment :

First up, Tom Hackbarth. Hackbarth recently got into trouble with the police regarding a pistol and a girlfriend... but, making matters worse, Hackbarth lied to the cops.

Hackbarth stood by Olson after Olson disgraced himself, nominating Olson in his last attempt to stay in office:

Rep. Tom Hackbarth nominated Mark Olson his friend and colleague of many years. It was seconded by another guy (bearded)I couldn’t hear at all. Heidi concluded the nomination speeches by exhorting everyone to vote for Mark because he is cute. It was really charming. It’s all on tape somewhere. There were 2-3 cameras rolling. Phil Krinkie was also on stage in support. You have to give Mark credit. He rallied his people and they showed up.


Phil Krinke, now head of the right-wing Taxpayers League also voted for Olson's pods.

Mark Buesgens, another name on the list, recently drunkenly drove his car into a ditch, pleaded guilty to DWI. (video)

Also on the list is sore loser Tom Emmer.

Not on the list is pod-supporter Mary Kiffmeyer who now sits in Olson's House seat.

And there's Kiffmeyer's buddy Michele Bachmann who said this about PRT:

"People on the right, people on the left, we have the common goal of moving people with transit, but doing it in the most cost-effective manner, in fact, in a manner that may end up costing no government subsidy, it may end up paying for itself,"


The person "on the left" Bachmann was referring to was convicted felon Dean Zimmermann who recently showed up at an MnDOT PRT workshop.

I could list more godawful MN politicians who have supported PRT, but you get the picture. Speaking of pictures, here's a bunch of pics from the MnDOT PRT Workshop.



Here are more recent examples PRT fiascos:

Masdar and Heathrow PRT Still Not Happening.

The Pawlenty administration wasted at least $150,000 on personal rapid transit .

PRT Conference Newsletter & Website Features PRT Plan by Convicted Felon.

PRT is so not happening at Heathrow.

Daventry says "Pods Off!".

Video: Bill James Pitches Jpods Resolution to Hennepin County.

Federal Funding Nixed for Winona Personal Rapid Transit Project

Minnesota legislators tell pod people not to expect funding from the state at dismal MnDOT "workshop".

Taxi 2000 lobbyist and Bachmann pal Ed Cain also lobbied for the phony U.S. Navy Veterans Association charity.

ULTra PRT Heathrow Debut Postponed a Fourth Time.

No $25 million earmark for PRT pork project in Winona, Minnesota.

The Swedish/Korean PRT prototype malfunctioned recently in front of the media.

Masdar and Heathrow PRT Still Not Happening

UPDATE: This from the Times of India:

At present, Heathrow airport is the only place where the pod is operational. While it is right now being used by the airport staff, the commercial operations will start soon after Christmas.


There is no mention of this new launch date on the ULTra PRT site.

I recently received an email asking me what is happening with the PRT projects at Heathrow and Masdar. Here is what I've found on the somewhat-reliable internet:

The Masdar PRT has been "scaled back" to a small demonstration project:

Gone is a proposal for a pod-based personal rapid transit (PRT) system, which would have run beneath the podium.

PRT pods are already running at the development site but only from the gate to the recently opened building that houses the Masdar Institute, a post-graduate university with a focus on clean energy. The pod cars are part of a pilot project, Mr Bone-Knell said.

A description and a pathetic little picture of the pods crawling underground like moles at this blog. It should be noted the company's 2getthere.eu website still claims the project is on - obviously not true. 2GetThere has had demonstration projects when it was a part of FROG, it had essentially the same "cybercab" demo they had years ago at Schiphol airport and at the Floriade. More about FROG and its FUBAR attempt to automate transit here.

Frog/2getthere created the guidance system "platform" for the ULTra - ULTra supposedly improved it, but I don't see much difference. It's really a stretch to call either 2GetThere's cybercab or ULTra's pod "PRT". Both are essentially automated, battery-powered golf carts - neither are personal (passengers sit awkwardly across from one another, knees almost touching), rapid(bikes are faster) or transit (totally lacking capacity).

Speaking of ULTra's glorified golf carts, the official word is they are still testing, testing, testing at Heathrow:

Heathrow revenue service trials produce excellent results

The four weeks of "Simulated Revenue Service" trial - intended to mimic real operating conditions - using Terminal 5 staff is now complete. This involved operation the system for 10.5 hr each day of the trial period....


No date set for the actual date for the real revenue service launch. with real passengers [see update at the top]. It should be noted that ULTra has missed deadlines to launch at Heathrow 3 or 4 times .

With only "revenue service trials" at Heathrow completed, ULTra has teamed up with Fairwood India to propose building an ambitious PRT system in Amritsar, India.

"The Personal Rapid Transport (PRT) – developed by our ULTra PRT, UK – is a revolutionary new transportation system, which has been operationalized in London (Heathrow airport) after 20 years of development. "


"Operationalized"?

The map for the Amritsar PRT is here. There is no indication that the citizens of Amritsar had any input in creating the route and the proposed destinations on the map. There has already been criticism that the PRT project "would harm historic Walled City of Amritsar and would hamper tourism in the city."

One reason that PRT never goes anywhere is the PRT guys never engage the public in any meaningful way. Here is an LTE published October 6th in the Winona Daily News:

Ken Avidor: Let the public have a voice in PRT

Boston Personal Rapid Transit promoter Lawrence J. Fabian in his Sept. 23 letter chided the citizens of Winona for their lack of enthusiasm for the PRT plan proposed by the city of Winona.

“If Winona wants to think small,” scolds Fabian.

An interesting criticism when you consider that Winonans never really had an opportunity to comment or ask questions in a public forum about the PRT project.

According to a Jan. 20 article in the Winona Daily News, a meeting where the public could have asked questions was for Winona City Council members only, “While there was little discussion of PRT during the meeting, the vote came after council members examined the system during a pre-council informational session that lasted more than one hour.”

I recall a similar PRT “informational session” for Minneapolis city officials only on March 26, 2005. When a proposal for a PRT project later came up for a vote in committee, the PRT promoters failed to show up and the matter was tabled. More recently, public officials in Daventry, England, complained that PRT promoters would not show up at public forums to answer questions. The Minnesota Department of Transportation held a “PRT workshop” Aug. 18, which cost $50 to attend and was not a public meeting. Why are PRT promoters avoiding the public?

When the city of Winona revisits the issue of PRT, as it has recently indicated it would, I would suggest they hold a free, public forum and invite critics as well as promoters. I would also suggest inviting experts in the field; transit engineers, transit advocacy groups and environmental groups. But most of all, I urge Winona city officials to invite the public.

Grassroots support for any big public project is essential. For it is the citizens who will end up paying for it— and if built, living with it.


The Amritsar PRT project should not be taken seriously. Dozens of these proposed PRT projects have gone nowhere over the years.